Heb. Hermes in Greek mythology). First of all, the Book of Enoch is lie from beginning to end. Is it Scripture? The long woe section (94.6-103.15) provides a detailed description of the wicked, characteristics by which they could be easily identified by the righteous who would be living at the time of the end: among them John, Paul, Peter, James, and Jude. 107.1 “generation upon generation shall transgress till a generation of righteousness arises” (cf. Perhaps a human body is needed in order to operate as a physical being in this realm. Virtually all the books considered over time to be apocryphal (by both Catholics and Protestants) can be expected to contain at least some truth in them. trains bank personnel to recognize counterfeit money, they never actually see or handle counterfeit money — just the real thing. 3:18-20). Luke 21:9; 2 Thess. Jas. <–Again, conflicting times/language anachronism: whereas all OT scriptures recovered and recorded pre-NT are in Hebrew, the Apocryphal books and this book of Enoch are in a somewhat contemporary language. Someone pointed out that angels, Do Not Marry!! To what extent other New Testament writers regarded 1 Enoch as Scripture may be determined by comparing their writings with those found in 1 Enoch. So perhaps these fallen angels were able to take on human form. I simply used the information presented by Daniel to construct a logical hypothesis: 1. Toggle side menu Bible Holy Bible Concordance People Bible Quotes Bible Stories Bible Verses Verse of the Day Bible. Do you know why scholars say this. What then follows is a very sensuous picture of Messianic bliss (10.17-22), the same kind of “prophetic idealism” that often appears in other Old Testament writings. 1 Tim. Indeed, there was hardly anyone who had not read 1 Enoch at the time of Christ. According to 1 Enoch, these were angels (or Watchers), two-hundred of them (6.6). It should be noted that according to Luke (who claims to have “traced the course of all things accurately from the first” in Luke 1.1-4), there are exactly seventy generations from the generation of Enoch to the generation of Jesus Christ (Luke 3.23-37). 1:2). You are saying literally , 'son of GoD' means man. Hence, “be hopeful ye that have died in righteousness” (102.4). Cant you see this is a trick from satan!!!?!?!! Jude 14-15 “In the seventh (generation) from Adam Enoch also prophesied these things, saying: 'Behold, the Lord came with his holy myriads, to execute judgment on all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners spoke against him'.”. (Enoch 45:3): In that day shall the Elect One sit upon a throne of glory, and shall choose their conditions and countless habitations. 100:9 “In blazing flames burning worse than fire shall ye burn” (cf. 90.26-27 The fate of the sinners: to be thrown into Gehenna — “this abyss was to the right of that house” (cf. 91.3-4 The “double heart” (cf. People do not literally have wings. Luke 24:4While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men suddenly stood near them in dazzling clothing; John 20:12and she saw two angels in white sitting, one at the head and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had been lying. Where does it ever say ppl have wings??? If you are reasonably articulate, start talking! Barnabas, Athenagoras, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus, and Tertullian). It is worthy to note that Christ's deity is not evidenced in the Book of Enoch. 19:15). That Jude regarded 1 Enoch as Scripture can hardly be doubted, not simply because he quotes from it, but also because he makes no distinction between 1 Enoch and other Scriptures. I dont think we're given enough information about all these things! But its not only people in visions- People in real life- real time- not in vision state. and not regarded as inspired or Scriptural by Protestants or Catholics, and it was not in the Old Testament that Jesus used and endorsed. Michael Had a good point, It seems, a scholarly view on this particular wording 'SonS of GoD' would be good to account for. You say that we should reject this book because it is written in a language younger than the period in which Enoch lived. And no surprises that all these ‘ists’ just happen to be anti-God. 62.4 “as on a woman in travail” (cf. Others believed it as well, for instance, Peter (as his reference to events outside the official OT/NT canon shows): For if God spared not the angels when they sinned, but cast them down into ####, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. Luke 2034Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. The biggest argument against the "Book of Enoch" being actually true scripture is the language it is written in and the date it was located. 62.13-16 “The righteous and elect shall be saved on that day…and with that Son of Man shall they eat…shall have risen from the earth…clothed with garments of glory…and…shall not grow old” (cf. Who wrote about their condemnation beforehand? 26:29; 1 Thess. Such was the practice among those who wished to make public what they believed to be new revelation (so it is theorized) after the Old Testament had been “officially” canonized. What does the Bible say about Enoch? As is the case with the New Testament, no major teaching of the book is seriously affected by any of these “textual variants.”. 1 Thess. According to 1 Enoch 10.12, this judgment was to occur “seventy generations” from Enoch, during which time the angels who sinned were to be kept in bonds “until the day of the consummation, the great judgment in which the age shall be consummated” (16.1-2). 10.7 “the healing of the earth” (cf. By identifying a number of corrupted passages and suspected interpolations, textual critics have made considerable progress in determining what might be called a fairly reliable text. 62.2 “the word of his mouth slays all the sinners” (cf. Arg, too many posibilities! That these angels took many wives is only part of the reason for their condemnation. Jordan Peterson reminds us that many people can’t talk, are afraid to talk, or they don’t know what to say. Joined: Feb 21, 2002 Messages: 11,898 Likes Received: 4. For the benefit of those who have not yet read 1 Enoch, a brief description of the text seems apropos considering that 1 Enoch’s 108 chapters might lead one to think that it is a much larger volume than it is — actually about 1100 verses divided into five sections (or books). That is why most people think it is a quote. Thanx for your post and your reasons for the Book of Enoch not being authentic. If you decide to read these books, you may read them as an interesting novel containing interesting stories from history. (generally accepted within most churches is that creation took place aproximately 4004 B.C. 10:23ff). I put to you this! 4 comments. John 1). 6:16). John 14:23). Col. 2:3; John 4). to about the middle of the first century. Rev. This will back up the judgement that you have made with this book.I am very open minded and teachable. (1 Enoch 1.9). 104.1 “in heaven the angels remember you for good before the glory of the Great One” (cf. Many are not aware today that fathers have few rights in today’s society. Bible verses related to Enoch from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance - Sort By Book Order Hebrews 11:5 - By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. But regardless of what anyone might think about the canonicity of 1 Enoch, the fact remains that at least one New Testament writer (Jude) regarded it as Scripture. 71.15 “the world to come” (cf. Book Of Enoch Jesus Quotes Book Of Enoch Wallpaper Quotes Book Of Jude Quotes Enoch Abraham Lincoln Quotes Albert Einstein Quotes Bill Gates Quotes Bob Marley Quotes Bruce Lee Quotes Buddha Quotes Confucius Quotes John F. Kennedy Quotes John Lennon Quotes Below are some of Jesus’ quotes from the New Testament and their linkages to the book of Enoch. 19.3 “the end of all things” (cf. This just opens up alot of questions, not many answers. 93.1-16 The “Apocalypse of Weeks” depicts the rise of “an apostate generation” and its destruction, after which a “new heaven” appears (cf. You have laid up treasure for the last days. Or remain silent and become a miserable worm. 4:7). While in the past it was taboo to have one parent in a family, today it almost seems encouraged. I saw this from another web site and thought I would include it. These are the offspring of the angels. Satan wants people to think that he can make women pregnant so some women at some stage in our human history, will freak out and kill they're babies cause they think they are demons. 38.4 “For the Lord of Spirits has caused His light to appear on the face of the holy, righteous, and elect” (cf. But as long as we egknoledge GoD has angels, it doesnt matter if we think they have wings or not. 2:3). They were entreating, supplicating, and praying for the sons of men; while righteousness like water flowed before them, and mercy like dew was scattered over the earth. Jesus never made any mention of the book of Enoch. Quote: Originally Posted by HistorianDude I love Enoch. Rev. 1 Cor. Enoch is also given to see all that is contained in the holy books (91.2; 103.2; 106.19), about which he is instructed to teach to his son (Methuselah) and also to write everything that had been revealed to him in a book, a book addressed to a righteous generation that should rise up in the last days, prior to the consummation of the age (82.1; 38.1). In closing, we will list a few of the more significant statements in 1 Enoch which have close parallels in the New Testament writings. Most people think it is a quote, namely, from 1 Enoch. Yes the books that the some churches say “oh no that’s not inspired” are indeed a comfort to the soul. Same with Jesus who had an ordinary human body and a spirtual body when he rose from the dead, or a human body with a spirtual dimension that wasn't in subjection to physical law. The only 2 options as I see it is that Jude is quoting either an oral or written record. This being the case, it should not surprise us to learn that 1 Enoch was banned by Hilary, Jerome, and Augustine and was subsequently lost to Western Christendom for over a thousand years. And very slim evidence to suggest, 'sons of God' were angels. report. Many christians imagen vain things about what scripture says. That 1 Enoch was written at least one-hundred years before Christ seems indicated (among other things) by numerous references to it contained in the Book of Jubilees. 3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.” 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. 7 So the LORD said, “I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth-men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air-for I am grieved that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD. I think the real question here is “Who are the Nephilim”? Nor are given in marrage. Jesus in the Book of Enoch, is eerily reminiscent of Freemasonry(who worship the "Great Architect"...an undefined, ambiguous, universal god). A thought provoking argument. 8:29). Acts 2). A strong possibility of influence upon their thought and diction is evidenced by a great many references found in 1 Enoch which remind one of passages found in the New Testament. Can you spot the error? Regardless how the book of Enoch is classified, the real issue is what influence it had upon those who wrote the New Testament. Were just given enough info to live a godly life in Jesus example. But it seems that he also quoted from The Book of Enoch. Their leaders (19 in all) are listed by name. 96:1 “suddenly shall the sinners perish before you” (cf. 103.8 “the great judgment shall be for all the generations of the world” (cf. John 14:2). And just as scholars can be wrong, so can documentaries (especially PBS and Discovery channel documentaries related to Biblical things, because they assume that evolution is correct and automatically assume that God doesn’t exist, so they treat all Biblical record as a fairy tale until they can prove it to their liking. But Jude didn't ignore it. So yeah- I think they either appear as men to our eyes, but theyre true form has wings- Or that some Have wings & Some dont. Wigoder, Geoffrey, ed. Rev. 71.5 Translated into heaven, Enoch sees “a structure built of crystals and…tongues of living fire” (Rev. Why on earth would someone see somthing that isnt there?? The book of Enoch was written about 167BC by a unknown prophet. Scientists and Scholars have their reasons, but they are often proven wrong as well. 3:18ff). Phil. The words (messenger-s of God) is translated, angel. 100% Upvoted. Allthough that would be strange to believe that. You say that scholars say that the book is between 200 B.C. Jesus spoke in parables and quoted the Old Testament. Therefore the possiblity that it could be scripture was refuted in the face of the anacronism of the modern language used to write such an assumadely old book. The Catholic church determined that the book of Enoch was to reveiling and it should no longer be used. He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly; and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him. If you say that wings are just nothing, even if you see them- Thats just plain ignorant. I am sure he wasn't likening his elect to the fallen angels. 22.7 Souls crying out for judgment (cf. Azazel is therefore first to be bound hand and foot, and cast into darkness for the duration of “seventy generations,” at which time “the judgment which is forever and ever is consummated” (10.4,6,12-13). 20.35). Is there an error? Let it go. 1 Pet. 21:11; Acts 2:3-4). GoD made Man and Woman to gain in number by repoduction. Many modern scholars, even a great many “evangelicals,” are dogmatic that Jude quoted from the so-called Book of Enoch, but this is pure speculation. 14:20). This is the false god of New Age. 2:6; Col. 1:13; Mt. You then say that “Someone pointed out that angels, Do Not Marry!! Jesus said GoD called People 'Sons Of GoD'. 15.7 Angels not marrying or being given in marriage (cf. Jesus answered them and said that they err in their question because they do not know the Scriptures, he proceeded to explain that angels do not marry. 100.5 “though the righteous sleep a long sleep, they have nought to fear” (cf. That will give you the "taste of the true" to allow you to separate that with is congruent with God’s word with that which isn’t. Mt. for instance; In Mark 12 when Jesus was in a dialogue with the Sadducees, a question came up about marriage in heaven. 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